I think corphish can also learn cut too. I use two as of 4th gen, Bibarel and Tropius. 1 Crawdaunt. It learns a whopping 6 HMs: Waterfall. As an HM slave, Wishcash is a particularly good choice thanks to a solid typing of ground and water, as well as having a decent move set. There are 8 HMs so i'm guessing i would need one with wings to fly and another sorry little. Apr 29, 2013 #1 Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the. Defog. It can be an interesting wall with it's hidden ability restoring berries, but it's not a GOOD pokemon in a battle sense. Surf is on my water pokemon (Lapras). In D/P/P specifically, you’ve got the options of cut, fly, defog, strength, and rock smash. If anything, remember that those two aforementioned HM slaves are all you really need. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. You can then pick anything in the top 15 or so on the chart (and others below, depending on which 3rd/4th moves you give. Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. Do you have any suggestions?For Pokemon Diamond Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Ideal HM Slave?". He can learn Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. Tropius is good as an HM slave. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). . Defog cannot be used outside of battle without the Fen Badge in Diamond and Pearl and the Relic Badge in Platinum . Tropius learns the HMs Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. In my opinion, Bibarel and Skarmory/Tropius are the best HM Slaves available. Personally I use Tropius as a slave since it can also learn Sweet Scent to spawn Hordes. Tropius, Bibarel, Gyarados: Excellent HM slaves Gallade @ Wide lens - Hypnosis, Swords Dance/Taunt, False Swipe, Mean Look: IMO best catcher Pokémon around Smeargle w/ Technician @ Silk Scarf - Belly Drum, Spore, False Swipe, Mean Look/Taunt/Cosmic Power: Another good catcher (though not as good as Gallade)0. Pokemon Emerald Version. Slaves of the hm species are the most powerful and trustworthy creatures of their kind. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Zigzagoon is found on the earliest routes of the game and Linoone gets Cut/Strength/Surf/Rock Smash. -Henry Louis Mencken. I'll always swap it in for my strongest Pokemon whenever I need it and it came clutch for me in Victory Road. ago. The nidorans can learn tons, it's amazing really. Tropius and Bibarel. He could work, just watch out for ice attacks. Use him ingame as a sunnybeamer and he'll do fine. Thanks in advance. Later On, the best HM slaves are Azumarril and Tropius. Bibarel and Tropius, perfect synergy of HM slave. SonicNash(Topic Creator)15 years ago#3. . The bunches of fruit growing around the necks of Tropius in Alola are especially sweet compared to those in other regions. For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Better than Tropius?". I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home This is a famous water-type HM slave that evolves from Psyduck and, in Heartgold, comes in handy because it’s available virtually everywhere and can make all HM moves except for cutting. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good measure! This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. I think mew can learn them all but it's better to use a bibarel and something else that can use defog. halodude5000 14 years ago #5. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. So, the question is. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. . See moreMy source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Those two between them can use every HM, I think. hey every one i am looking to hear you views on who is the best hm slave? fc -3008 4707 8173. Rudoku. i dont have hm slave. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Tropius’s weight is 100kg, and its HP is 2. He is usually my HM slave and I didved the remaing four among my party. It has fairly balanced stats with it's only decent ones being HP and Sp. Cut. Now usually Tropius and Gyarados are enough. Tropius is probably one of the worst options available though. Sign in with the following networks. Because TMs are reusable, if you have patience, you don't even need an HM slave, even in post-game! If you don't mind going to the move deleter several times, you can teach Dive to something in your party,. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. Shiny lvl 100. 611 votes, 26 comments. Bibarel (Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Rock Smash) and Tropius (Fly, Defog, Strength, Cut). Skarmory's Pretty good. H. that's about it. Get a Bibarel and Pelipper. ORAS: Sharpedo for water (double the speed has its perks; plus it was powerful to boot), Altaria for Flying, Zigzagoon and Tropius for the other stuff. ". Just the quality of life features it offers would be enough, but Radical Red amps it up a notch by increasing the difficulty severely, being updated to Gen 8 in terms of movepool. "Larz" @ 2681-0435-3081. Tropius LOOKS really good, but sadly, it isn't. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. I went to Route 4 to try and find some Kanto Pokemon. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. Haha I think I just remembered from the Gyarados + Tropius HM slave pairing in Gen 3. At the very least though it still makes for a great HM slave. The 15 Best Pokemon To Learn Cut. "--- Teenman. What are the two best HM slaves, like 2 pokemon that can use all the hms between them and what are the best places to find them at?. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Tropius is a great HM slave. when you get to route 119, catch a Tropius and use it as your hm slave. Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and also the TM Flash which is very useful. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. . Bibarel+Tropius get all HM's. Because you must have 8 badges to get a Salamence, Tropius is your winner. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. Generation IV holds a soft spot in the hearts of a lot of people, and for a very good reason. Dragonite can learn Fly Surf Waterfall Strenght HMs. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. 3DS FC: 5155 2932 6518. And he can sunnybeam. It can learn Cut, Surf, and Rock Smash. But if you're not a fan, Roserade is pretty strong as well. I ended up using Latias as my HM Slave. I generally used Linoone, since Pickup still makes it useful on the team, and Pelipper. Cacturne has always been my favorite Hoenn grass type. Cryptogeodude is my HM slave. The Pokemon Database has this awesome chart that can be used to find "HM slaves". 1. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI had an HM Slave Metapod with Cut. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. The only two games that I've really had an HM slave for have been the Sinnoh games and ORAS. that's about it. Oh yeah I guess 9 HM's then, I forgot rock climb. If you are at or can get to Pastoria City, you're halfway there! You can catch both a Bibarel and a Tropius in the Great Marsh. I wouldn't take chances,for finding big mushrooms/tinymushrooms for remembering. Ok-Leave3121 • 4 mo. A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. SolidOrochi 13 years ago #8 Tropius @ Hat Fly Defog Cut Rock Smash / Strength Bibarel @ Choice Band Rock Climb Rock Smash / Strength Surf Waterfall Now go and beat your friends. . You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Best 2 HM slaves for this game Pokemon Omega Ruby 3DS. . I hope you are having a fantastic day! littlebigpiano 12 years ago #4. Thanks in advance. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. 1 Kartana. Urvilan • 2 yr. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. If I were able to wage threats of physical violence on whoever revamped these trainer battles, believe me I most certainly would. They just need to make him Grass/Dragon already. Dragonite, Mew, Tropius, Salamence, Giratina, Arceus, Smeargle Surf / Whirlpool / Waterfall / Rock Climb : Blastoise, Golduck, Poliwrath, Omastar, Kabutops, Mew, Feraligatr, Suicune, Swampert. Gotta give thanks to Tropius. For Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "New play through suggestions". Sign in with the following networks. Gyarados for surf/waterfall/dive/strength. Tropius is in the Great Marsh. Skarmory compliments Tauros well, taking on Cut, Fly, and freeing up Rock Smash. Sneavile 8 years ago #12. to catching tropius in emeraldthe only place to catch tropius is route 119 duuhhh. Since in AS/OR you can use the Eon flute for flying, Linoone is the only HM slave you need in your party unless you need to dive or get up a waterfall. ago. Tauros is an excellent candidate for TM Slave 1; he learns, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. You could try Skarmory with Cut/Fly/Rock. Tropius is pretty middle of the road. I used Linoone. CryptoTropius is cool, but it's not exactly the best stat-wise. I was also thinking about Pikachu, but it doesn't learn Cut. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. A tropaion ( Greek: τρόπαιον, Latin: tropaeum ), from which the English word, "trophy", is derived, was a monument erected to commemorate a victory over one's foes by the. 1. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. . They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. Tropius (HM Slave) If only I knew about Salamence earlier. Dwell in peace in the home of your own being, and the messenger of Death will not be able to touch you. Rack smash, as well. CeruleanGamer 8 years ago #5. Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius?". Cult of Cthulu Ziploc and Glad are equally detrimental to the community. 4. of course i don't. Swampert Golem Alakzam LIoone Camerupt Tropius Manectric Latios Delcatty maybe there was a Vileplume too to be completely honest i don't remember my ORAS team that well the only members that were consistent was Swampert, Camerupt, and Latios the rest is just anyone else that may have passed in or out of the team for a significant amount of time before the elite 4 5. MegaButterfree 7 years ago. May 15, 2012. numel zigzagoon wailmer dodrio bellossom are good. My fav was a Mew I hacked back in the day on my pokemon red for the GB. 3DS FC: 1375-7711-9231. Attacks. Teach him Flash and catch a Tentacruel for Strength and the water HMs. (n. 1f u c4n r34d 7h1s u r34lly n33d 2 g37 4 l1f3. Tropius is also one of the absolute best HM slaves, and its attack and special attack are about equal and acceptable for that point in the game. Hm slaves - Pelliper and Geodude Competative (Smogon OU) Clefable (Bold, cm, T-wave), Lopunny (Mega), Landorous T (Bulky rocker/breaker),. Darth_Mom 15 years ago #2. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. . even a tropius and absol? Tropius flies and solarbeams, Absol has monster attack and Swords Dance. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Anyone know of an easily accessed hm slave that can learn cut and fly? (And defog too, but it ain't a big deal) I know tropius can learn both, but it comes kind of late in game I. Together they can learn everything and, unlike Skar and Trop, they aren't rare and can be obtained before the E4. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Bibarel and Tropius. News. Sessy UNoT Extreme Mooomber Posts: 2349. Egg Moves. As far as I know, Slaking doesn't benefit from any attacks other than return, shadow ball, earthquake, and maybe hyper beam. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. Jan 2, 2015. 3DS FC: 1891 1187 4587 White 2 FC: 1765 0547 5604. Fantastic. 1. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. That said, Tropius still deserves some recognition for it's HM. I think Furret and Bibarel can learn these moves as well. For Pokemon Alpha Sapphire on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "What pokemon are the best HM slaves for this game?" - Page 3. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Fly. Because you must have 8 badges to get a Salamence, Tropius is your winner. i use tropius and wailord. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. Chinchou has Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Flash. Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. Typhlosion can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Rock Climb, and. Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use. Tropius Pokémon has the ability to fly and you can catch it at level 2 with PokéBall. It would be entirely pointless because Bibarel does everything except fly throughout the entire game, so it basically outclasses everything except Tropius. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. By carrying around an HM slave, you don't have to allocate any of your actual team's limited moves towards often. Anything decent works in game. FS: Bug Combee-Illumise-Pinsir. Tropius is quite good but I generally like to get my HM slaves sorted out asap and training a Patrat till level 20 is better than waiting till much later in the game where Tropius is catchable (unless you can get one by trade early on), the water HMs arent that big a deal while Swanna cant use them all giving it one of the physical HMs and Fly. i used him in emerald by acident. Tropius has zero competitively useful sets in singles or doubles in pretty much any conceivable format. ago. . I use Skarmory and Bibarel. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. Tropius. 0. My Lilligant knows Sleep Powder, Flash, Cut, and Giga Drain. Boards. Bibarel and Tropius. However, if your Faraway Island Mew turned out to be a total piece of crap, feel free to make it an HM Slave. The hm slaves are one type of creature in this category; they assist their trainers in navigating the world and accomplishing tasks. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. Its ability is Chlorophyll, which makes grass-type moves more powerful in sunlight. <_<Tropius + Sharpedo. . Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash. 3DS FC: 5155 2932 6518. This POKéMON flies by flapping the leaves on its. re: Best HM Slave? Bibarel and Tropius are the best two to use. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. Both have interesting designs, in my opinion. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. Tropius was the GOAT HM slave back in Gen 3, but has fallen into obscurity since. Since the TC is actually going to use Tropius, I don't see what the HM slave sets have to do with the topic at hand. - It has a terrible movepool. Tropius can learn Fly, Strenght and Cut, and can hit decent with Fly and can learn Leaf Storm. . News. Skarmory can also work instead of Tropius. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. The best HM slave combo is: 1. As such, a pokemon that can carry four HMs is a natural and objective example of a HM Slave. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. It was the first appearance of the Pokémon series on the Nintendo DS, marking the true beginning of the next generation of games. Tropius - Cut / Flash - Rock Smash - Strength - Fly. Anyway I am playing PkM Silver right now, so I thought what Pokemon wold be best for HM slave for gen2 PkM games, or gen3, gen1 ;153;Who, in your opinion, is the best hm slave? I'm using the Shiny gyarados (Rock Smash, Strength, Surf, and Whirlpool) Pokemon Black FC: 2666 1617 9618. Tropius: Fruit Pokémon 2 HP Height Weight Gender Egg Group(s) 6'07" 2. Grass/Dragon would be an awesome type combo, and Tropius already looks like a dragon. But he still looks awesome. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. For Pokemon SoulSilver Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Best HM Slave, Heart gold board?". Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. What else could you want from them?. drumskatelove 14 years ago #14. GENIUS. Shuppet thief. You really don't need a HM slave, just give every Pokemon 1 HM each. View. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. but why the hell do you even care about the evs/nature of your fricken hm slaves edit:stefywefy beat me to that . if you have access to sinnoh and trading, definately these 2. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut,. 4 Greninja. But really, the only thing he's good for is looking awesome and being a non-Normal type HM Whore. This is the place for most…Tropius is very versatile HM Slave. Nidorina/Nidorino: Cut, Strength, Rock Smash. Man, I feel like most people forgot about Tropius before Emerald even came out. The best HM slaves are Skarmory and Bibarel. 135 votes, 75 comments. ago. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. ---. Swampert is just awesome, Alakazam. Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. #FreeAssange. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. SURF on Greninja. It's Steel-type, I won't bother using it in battles. If you want a flying 'HM slave' Tropius is great too: Fly, Strength, Rock Smash and Cut. Gyarados, zigzagoon/linoone, bidoof/bibarrel, tropius, and even samurott. This in turn will. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. I used Tropius and Psyduck myself. The latter being an option if you did not pick mudkip. I'm using empoleon as a hm slave in my next run xD. Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. mewruler 15 years ago #3 *cough*bibarel and peliper*cough*. One word. Fly is also usable in game, now that it is 90 base power, but don't use it competitively. 3rd Gen Dex. I usually don't have an HM slave. For Pokemon Diamond Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Good HM Mules??". Nidorina or Nidorino and Dragonite are also. SNRGTCgamer posted. HM Slave. ago. Locked post. Go. Between Tropius and a water-type, you can get all 8 HMs. In-game : Tropius is a decent physical wall thanks to its flying type and good defense and HP (plus it can function as an HM slave) Shiftry is a good sweeper from either side if you raise him right, and has access to Extrasensory and Explosion Cacturne has higher attacking stats than Shiftry, but lower speed - but has access to Teeter Dance. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Wishcash. Devilish_Dave 15 years ago #10Introduction. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. CUT on Serperior. rampardose. There were a good handful of changes and improvements made for Diamond, Pear. Log in to add games to your lists. RhydonAvailability is the most important thing for a good HM slave. - Rayquaza_man7. I don't have the national 'dex yet, so I can't transfer over a Tropius from my Sapphire so I can have an HM Slave with Fly and Defog. tropius is also a good hm slave. It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. Bibarel and Tropius still works. for damages!" Lootenstein 13 years ago #7. Log in to add games to your lists. Tropius - Fly - Cut - Rock Smash - Strength. Absolutely. ago. Ruin Maniac Dusty (Route 111): 15% chance to get a Star PieceKrabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. Sign in with the following networks. My 2 mules are Venusaur (Rock Smash, Flash, Cut, Stenght; bulbasaur can learn all of them too, alternatives are Treecko, Nuzleaf, Breelom, Tropius, Absol. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon and Spheal (with Flygon covering Fly) talli_ho on March 10th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) I'm a noob that doesn't have an HM slave. i give like one hm to almost all pokemon but some may have two like water pokemon have surf and waterfall. The only HM moves worth using in competitive battle are Surf and Waterfall. . Cheats. Mirage312 15 years ago #2 Zigzagzoon for cut, surf, rocksmash. 2 Gallade. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. Pickup, can learn more HMs than it can carry, cute at and cheesy competitive viability. Tropius has been a solid HM slave choice in almost every appearance it has made since its inception. #5. hm slave; wickedxtanis 13 years ago #1. . For Pokemon Black Version 2 on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Rate My White Version 2 In Game Team". Linoone is good. I taught it Strength, Fly, Cut, and Flash. Joined Jan 14, 2006 Messages 126 Reaction score 0. But you can't get Tropius till post-game unless you have some other version. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. ago. Crawdaunt learns all of them but the most popular HM slaves are Tropius and Golduck, who together get all 8 HMs between them. So as I was playing my Platinum today I realized that of all my Pokemon, my Groudon knew Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, and my Kyogre knew Surf and Waterfall (as well as Dive on Emerald before I migrated it). no evolutionary family, no Mega, no legendary, third-gen release only. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. A more practical solution is a combo of Farfetch'd (Cut/Fly) and Pikachu (the other 3). In PokeMMO literature, utility Pokemons focused on HMs called HM slave. tropius strength flash fly rock smash with a tentacool you have em all. For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. FLY on Honkrow. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius: Potential Lost. It is the final form of Tropius. We need some HM slave appreciation. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength,. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. Besides, Tropius isn’t useless mechanically; it’s a viable “HM slave,” apparently carved a niche for itself within Pokémon GO’s competitive circuits, and has found some ground within Scarlet & Violet’s, which is nice. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some weeks ago so we can't roll the forums back. This topic contains spoilers - you can click, tap, or highlight to reveal themI used a Tropius with Fly, Rock Smash, Cut, and Strength. . Bibarel and tropius learn all HM's. Azumarril learns Dive, Surf, Rock Smash and Waterfall while hitting hard with Dive and Waterfall. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with. 2 posts, 7/12 8:50AM. I plan to buy the Ocarinas for the other HMs (Flash, Waterfall, Dive, etc) so only one of my pokemon slot is reserved to the Tropius slave. Tropius is found in the Safari Zone. Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. 4. tropius is also a good hm slave. Skarslave. Consume product. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. . Sign in with the following networks. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius.